Correspondence with Mr. Jack Stone

Dear Mr. Stone,

It seems to me that your response missed the main point of the conversation: what I was trying to convey through the following incidents was that throughout the recent history of mankind, it was not any religion that precipitated the unjustified killing of innocent people, but the people who misrepresented it. I’m totally in agreement with you when Hitler, born into a Roman Catholic family, (your claim that he was an atheist is doubtful and you can clear it from this link: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ca_hitler.html) killed millions of Jews he was not representing Christianity. I also agree with you when you say, Stalin, though being born into a Christian family, was a communist and killed hundreds of thousands of people to preserve his regime. The Japanese, whose majority believe in Buddhism, attacked Pearl Harbor killing more than 2,000 US soldiers and a few civilians, and the US, whose majority believe in Christianity, dropped two atom bombs in retaliation and killed 280,000 civilians and rendered another 200,000 homeless in the worst ever attack in human history on civilians. In Gujarat (unfortunately you are wrong here) at least 2000 people were killed by some fanatics who misrepresent the great religion of Hinduism. In the run up to setting up their homeland in Palestine and afterwards, Israel, which is a Jewish state, either killed or displaced five million Palestinians (refer to: www.guardian.150m.com/palestine/israeli-massacres.htm).

In all these incidents, we don’t blame any religion for the killings undertaken by the perpetrators. Then, whey would Osama Bin Laden’s religion is blamed for the unscrupulous terrorist attacks which killed innocent civilians? That is the point of contention here. If you do not call those who unleashed atom bombs against innocent civilians "Christian terrorists", but describe them as mere life-savers, why would you call a person, who was born into a Muslim family, an Islamic terrorist, though he misrepresents the Islamic values?

So, my point is clear. Let’s all – people of all religions and faiths – denounce terrorism in whatever form, whether it’s undertaken by a government or a group of misled and misinformed individuals. We can never compensate the pains and sufferings of a family that lost a loved one – whether they are Christian, Muslim or Hindu. Let’s all stand up for the common and shared values that the humanity cherished for ever and make this earth a peaceful place to live in harmony.

Having said this, please note that Islam or its holy book, The Quran, does not propagate terrorism as a tool to preach its teachings. Instead, it says: "Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." (Chapter 16, Verse: 125).

One of the main teachings of Holy Quran is this: "If anyone slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people." (Chapter 5, Verse 13)

Thaj Aluva
Email: tajaluva@gmail.com
Blog: http://www.tajaluva.blogspot.com/



From: Jack Stone [mailto:jackstoneisright@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 7:18
To: tajaluva@gmail.com

Can anyone forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Who did this?
THE JAPANESE. THEY ATTACKED THE UNITED STATES AT PEARL HARBOR WITHOUT PROVOCATION. THEY REFUSED TO STOP THE WAR. THEY STARTED THE WAR. THE USA ENDED IT.
Who used weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in the history of mankind?
THE GERMANS IN WORLD WAR I
Can anyone forget Hitler? He was a Roman Catholic.
NO HE WAS NOT A ROMAN CATHOLIC. HE WAS A SATAN WORSHIPPER. EVIDENCE OF THE OCCULT IN THE NAZIS REGIME HAS BEEN SHOWN VERY STRONGLY. AGAIN, YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND CHRISTIANITY. YOU CANNOT BE A CHRISTIAN SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN A "CHRISTIAN" COUNTRY.

Can anyone forget Vietnam War and the chemical weapons used to kill poor Vietnamese? Who did this, Muslims?
NO WEAPONS WERE USED TO KILL POOR VIETNAMESE. THE USA DEFENDED AND PROTECTED THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE FROM ATTACKS BY THE NORTH VIETNAMESE. THE USA GOT BETWEEN VICIOUS ATTACKERS FROM THE NORTH WHO WERE TRYING TO KILL THE PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH. AS ALWAYS, THE USA WAS DEFENDING HUMAN LIFE AND PROTECTING PEOPLE. ONLY THE VICIOUS MURDERERS WERE KILLED BY THE USA.
Can anyone forget Stalin who killed millions of people in Russia? He was a Christian.
AGAIN, STALIN WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN. STALIN WAS AN ATHEIST. ONLY ATHEISTS -- WHO REJECT GOD -- COULD BE LEADERS IN THE COMMUNIST SOVIET UNION.
Can any civilized man forget Abu Gharaib prison torture in Iraq?
NO, BECAUSE THE USA PUT THOSE PEOPLE IN JAIL WHO DID THIS. THEY WILL NOT FORGET WHILE THEY ARE SITTING IN JAIL HOW THE USA PUNISHED THEM.

BUT SO WHAT? SOME IRAQIS HAD SOME UNDERWEAR ON THEIR HEAD AND HAD TO TAKE THEIR CLOTHES OFF. THEY WILL THANK ALLAH THAT THEY WERE NOT IN SADDAM'S PRISONS. THEY WOULD BE TORTURED FOR YEARS, AND HAVE PARTS OF THEIR BODY CUT OFF BY SADDAM HUSSEIN. THEY ARE VERY LUCKY.

Can anyone forget Oklahoma bombing? Who did this? Timothy McVeigh was a homegrown product.
NO, ACTUALLY, IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT TIMOTHY MCVEIGH HAD HELP FROM IRAQ.
Can anyone forget the killing fields in Cambodia? Paul Pot was a Christian.
AGAIN, POL POT WAS A COMMUNIST. ONLY AN ATHEIST -- WHO REJECTS GOD -- CAN BE A LEADER IN A COMMUNIST COUNTRY. POL POT WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN. HE REJECTED GOD.
Can anyone forget 2 World Wars? How many millions of people died in these wars? Who fought these two wars?
ATHEISTS WHO REJECT GOD STARTED THESE WARS. THE USA SAVED THE WORLD
Can any human being justify the killing and destruction of one country, Afghanistan, by America in order to capture one man, Osama Bin Laden?
YES, BECAUSE THERE IS NO DESTRUCTION OF AFGHANISTAN BY THE USA . MUSLIM JIHADISTS DESTROYED AFGHANISTAN FOR 10 YEARS IN THE 1990'S.

THAT IS WHY WHEN THE USA CAME INTO HELP, 90% OF THE FIGHTERS DESTROYING THE TALIBAN WERE AFGHAN FIGHTERS DESTROYING THE TALIBAN.

NOW AFGHANISTAN IS STRONGER AND BETTER THAN IT HAS BEEN IN 20-30 YEARS. THE USA HAS BLESSED AFGHANISTAN WITH PEACE AND GROWING ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.

Can any human being justify the killing and destruction of one great country, Iraq, by America in the name of WMD and which was proved later as a big lie? Bush is a Born-Again Christian.
AGAIN, THE ONLY DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ HAS BEEN BY MUSLIMS -- SADDAM HUSSEIN, AL QAEDA AND IRAQI MUSLIMS. MUSLIMS HAVE BEEN KILLING MUSLIMS IN IRAQ. THE USA HAS STOOD BETWEEN THESE MUSLIM KILLERS AND THEIR MUSLIM VICTIMS.

THIS IS WHY IRAQI MUSLIMS ARE NOW MARCHING IN THE STREETS SIDE BY SIDE WITH US SOLDIERS. THEY KNOW THAT THE MUSLIM JIHADISTS ARE THE EVIL ENEMY, AND THE US SOLDIERS ARE THEIR FRIENDS.

WE KNOW THAT SADDAM HUSSEIN HAD WMD'S. SADDAM MOVED THEM TO SYRIA.
IRAQ NOW HAS HOPE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 50 YEARS, AND IS MUCH BETTER OFF THAN BEFORE.

Can anyone forget the Crusades against Muslims in the 10th century? Who did this?
YES, CHRISTIAN EUROPE DEFENDED ITSELF AGAINST INVASIONS BY MUSLIMS, AND THE MURDER OF CHRISTIANS BY MUSLIMS. THE EVIL OF MUSLIMS HAS NEVER CHANGED. BUT WHEN OUR ARMIES COME OVER THERE AND KICK YOUR BUTTS, THEN THERE IS PEACE. THE CRUSADES WERE A RESPONSE TO MUSLIM EVIL.
The French killed about a million Muslims in Algeria because they wanted independence. Who did this, Muslims?
NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT FROM THE HISTORY OF MUSLIMS (A) THEY LIE ABOUT THE NUMBERS KILLED -- ALWAYS, (B) MUSLIMS ALWAYS START WARS.
The USA and Britain have killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
FALSE. THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT SAYS THAT 150,000 IRAQIS HAVE BEEN KILLED. 90% OF THESE WERE KILLED BY MUSLIMS. IT WAS A CIVIL WAR BETWEEN DIFFERENT MUSLIM GROUPS.

THE USA AND UK HAVE PROTECTED THE MUSLIM CIVILIANS FROM BEING KILLED BY OTHER MUSLIMS. MUSLIM = EVIL. USA = GOOD.

Serbs (Christians) have killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims and raped thousands of women in Bosnia and Kosovo. Who did this crime beyond comparison in human history?
ACTUALLY, BOTH SIDES KILLED THE OTHER. THE USA CAME TO PROTECT THE MUSLIMS IN BOSNIA AND KOSOVO.
THE USA IS THE BEST FRIEND OF MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD.

BUT, AGAIN, THE SERBS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS. SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN A HISTORICALLY CHRISTIAN COUNTRY DOES NOT MAKE YOU A CHRISTIAN.
The massacre of Sabra and Shatila in Beirut was not done by Muslims, but by Christians of Lebanon, protected and supported by the Israelis.
ACTUALLY, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED INSIDE THE CAMPS. ISRAEL DID NOT SUPPORT THIS.
HOWEVER, AGAIN, YOU CANNOT BE A CHRISTIAN BY SIMPLY CALLING YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN. THAT IS NOT WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS.
The genocide of Bosnian Muslims is committed by the Serbs (Greek Orthodox), and the Croats (Catholics). The Bosnian Muslims were denied the means to defend themselves, while Christians were given arms to kill Muslims.
REPEAT: SEE ABOVE. THE USA USED THE POWER OF THE GREATEST MILITARY ON EARTH TO DEFEND AND PROTECT THE MUSLIMS
The fight between the Catholics and Protestants of Northern Ireland is not the work of Muslims.
TRUE. BUT, AGAIN, ONE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN BY SIMPLY LIVING IN A HISTORICALLY CHRISTIAN COUNTRY. THESE PEOPLE WERE NOT CHRISTIANS.
The Ku Klux Klan is a white militant Christian fundamentalist group. They still exist in the USA, and are not banned. They are not accused as white militant Christian fundamentalists.
NO, THESE ARE NOT CHRISTIANS.
The invasion of Panama by the US Government and putting President Noriega in jail is not considered state terrorism or a state fundamentalism. It was considered liberation of that country and offering the people the so called "American democracy". The ordinary, innocent citizens of this country were slaughtered, imprisoned and tortured.
YES, NORIEGA DID SLAUGHTER, IMPRISON, AND TORTURE THE PEOPLE OF PANAMA. THE USA SAVED THEM. THAT IS TRUE.
In Chile, US brought down the democratically elected government of Salvadore Allende and installed the right-wing military dictator General Augusto Pinochet. The ordinary, innocent citizens of this country were slaughtered, imprisoned and tortured.
THE US DID NOT BRING DOWN A GOVERNMENT. THE USA NEVER SENT IN ANY TROOPS. ALL THE USA CAN DO IS SUPPORT ONE SIDE OR ANOTHER INSIDE CHILE. THE PEOPLE OF CHILE DID THIS.
The invasion of a tiny island Grenada by the U.S. Government and the shackling of its president as a slave are considered a liberation movement, but not a state of terrorism. The ordinary, innocent citizens of this country were slaughtered, imprisoned and tortured.
NO ONE WAS SLAUGHTERED, IMPRISONED, OR TORTURED IN GRENADA, EXCEPT THE CUBAN
TROOPS OCCUPYING THE ISLAND OF GRENADA. AS SOON AS THE USA LANDED, EVERYONE SURRENDERED, EXCEPT A SMALL NUMBER OF CUBANS.
Number slaughtered: 0
Number imprisoned: 0
Number tortured: 0

The attack of Libya by American weapons during the Reagan administration was not considered terrorism or fundamentalism, but part of the New World Order scheme.
AND IT STOPPED LIBYAN TERRORISM, AND KEPT PEOPLE SAFE ALL THROUGH THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE WORLD.
The attack on the nuclear reactor in Baghdad by Israelis was considered a heroic achievement of the government of Israel, but not terrorism and fundamentalism.
AND IT STOPPED SADDAM HUSSEIN FROM BUILDING NUCLEAR WEAPONS, AND KEPT PEOPLE SAFE ALL THROUGH THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE WORLD.
Fundamentalism as explained by Webster Dictionary has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims. It has coined with reference to Christianity.
Fundamentalism is a variation of any religion.
Holy War and the idea of the infidels are terminologies that have to do with the Christian crusaders.
NO, THE MUSLIMS INVADED SPAIN, AND INVADED EUROPE UP TO VIENNA. THE HOLY WAR WAS STARTED BY THE MUSLIMS WHO INVADED EUROPE.
THE CRUSADERS RESPONDED TO MUSLIM EVIL AND MUSLIM WAR BY TRYING TO STOP THE MUSLIM AT THEIR SOURCE. EUROPEANS GOT TIRED OF FIGHTING MUSLIMS IN EUROPE, AND DECIDED TO CUT THEM OFF AT THEIR SOURCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

The massacre beyond comparison has happened and is still happening in Chechnya and innocent people including women and children are brutally killed and raped every day. Who is doing this?
ATHEST RUSSIANS AND EX-COMMUNISTS, WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD.
Innocent people including women and children are brutally killed everyday in Palestine. The Israel, for half a century destroying the Palestinian people and their houses with the help of arms and financial and moral support provided by the USA.
THE ONLY INNOCENT PEOPLE BEING BRUTALLY KILLED IN PALESTINE ARE THE JEWS. ISRAEL LIVES AT PEACE WITH EGYPT. ISRAEL LIVES AT PEACE WITH JORDAN. BUT NO ONE CAN LIVE AT PEACE WITH EVIL PALESTINIANS, WHO ARE MURDERERS.
The people including women and children in Iraq have been killed during the war and 12 years long sanctions. 500,000 children under age 5 would have alive today if sanctions did not exist. This hijacking and hostage taking of Iraq was done by the so called civilized people.
NO, THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT SAYS THE NUMBER IS 150,000 -- AND 90% OF THOSE WERE KILLED BY MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMS IN A CIVIL WAR.
THE NUMBER KILLED BY 12 YEARS OF SANCTIONS: 0

SADDAM HUSSEIN HAD A RIGHT TO SELL ALL THE OIL HE WANTED TO BUY ALL THE FOOD AND MEDICINE HE WANTED.

IF SADDAM HUSSEIN DID NOT BUY ENOUGH FOOD OR MEDICINE, THAT IS THE EVIL OF SADDAM HUSSEIN, NOT THE SANCTIONS.

AGAIN: THE SANCTIONS DID NOT COVER FOOD OR MEDICINE.

THERE WERE NO SANCTIONS AGAINST FOOD OR MEDICINE.

SO HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOU LISTEN TO LIARS? IT IS TRUE THAT SADDAM HUSSEIN KILLED MILLIONS OF IRAQIS.

BUT DO NOT COUNT THE PEOPLE THAT SADDAM HUSSEIN KILLED AGAINST THE USA.

Innocent boys and girls were killed in Afghanistan during Russian and American invasion.
THE ATHEIST COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT OF THE SOVIET UNION, WHICH REJECTS GOD, KILLED BOYS AND GIRLS, AND EVEN MADE BOMBS THAT LOOKED LIKE TOYS.
NO INNOCENT BOYS AND GIRLS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY THE AMERICAN LIBERATION OF AFGHANISTAN.

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE USA DOES NOT FIGHT WARS LIKE YOU BLOODTHIRSTY, SAVAGE, MUSLIM TERRORISTS. WE DO NOT FIGHT YOUR TYPE OF WAR. WE FIGHT AGAINST THE MILITARY. WE DO NOT KILL CIVILIANS.

How many people were killed in Gujarat in 2002? Who did this?
MUSLIMS

Jack Stone